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i mean, at the end of the day, people can say what they want to say. but these are children we're talking about. i mean, lee is not even 20 years old yet. and so we think about children being shot and killed across -- not only -- really our country and especially in our urban centers, it's just completely unfortunate. because this really speaks to the fate of our country and our cities, what's happening in our small community as rosalyn. >> liz dozier, keep doing what you're doing and give lee our best. thank you so much in chicago for us. >> i will. thank you so much, brooke. thank you. now here we go. top of the hour. i'm brooke baldwin. you're watching cnn. we begin with the mid east, israel. now says it did bomb a refugee camp in gaza city today. two minutes into a seven-hour self-declared humanitarian truce. palestinians say an 8-year-old girl was killed. many other children were injured in this attack on a family home.
israel says it was, quote, targeting islamic jihad, and this did not amount to a violation of the truce. let me fast forward to later in the day. here it was, the israeli prime minister, netanyahu, viewed the gaza campaign will continue. he spoke after a man on a backhoe drove into a city bus in jerusalem, killing a pedestrian before police killed him. in a separate incident in jerusalem, a man on a motorcycle shot and badly wounded an israeli soldier. and just a reminder here of the death count in gaza. palestinian officials say 28 days of hostilities have killed more than is 1,800 palestinians. more than 9,000 others injured. 67 israelis are dead, but 3 were soldiers. joining me live from gaza city, cnn's martin savidge. and martin, the idf says it's
resuming operations, including those air strikes, but netanyahu says his campaign to destroy hamas, the tunnel, specifically, is about to conclude? why is that? what are you hearing? >> well, that's what they say. that they have been saying the mission against tunnels was ready to conclude for a number of days now. but it appears they're down to the last two or three. and they could be done with that by tonight. however, that may mean the end of the ground offensive, per se. but it's unlikely to mean the end of the conflict. because it is still anticipated that there will be air strikes, there will be artillery. and there could be other strikes that will be conducted by israel. primarily, they say, israel, that is, it depends on what hamas and the islamic jihad and other groups do in regard to israel. what they mean by that, if they continue to launch rockets against israel, then israel says it will maintain what it has always maintained, it has the right of self defense and will strike back at those launching
the rockets. the problem is, of course, there are so many civilians here as well, they are most likely caught up in that cycle of violence. so it does not appear -- tonight we have been hearing, you know, the thump of artillery. we have seen flares dropped. we have also seen rockets earlier in the evening that were outgoing towards israel. we saw iron dome intercept some of those. it got very busy, just around sunset this evening. and, again in the darkness, and much of gaza is dark, you can hear the sound of warfare as it continues to the south and raffa, especially violate with more civilian deaths. we don't have an exact number yet. that's where it stands, brooke. >> as we watch the numbers, the civilians, hamas, israel, different sides, the deaths, the injured. let's talk about, though, the supplies. because we know -- we talk about these humanitarian cease-fires, the attempted cease-fires, and much of that is so that the supplies can be delivered to gaza. do we know, if the palestinians have received the supplies they
need? >> reporter: there were. i mean, it was evident today. you could see the trucks, marked clearly, united nations. they were loaded and moving about within the city. so that's an indication, you know, that supplies were being brought in. blood was being brought in. a desperate shortage of that. a need. and on top of that, this sort of personal resupply that takes place. what i mean is that families finally were able to get out, go to the store, buy the water, the food, the medicines, whatever it is they need, including lining up at the bank. there was a long line at the atm machine. so they have not been able to do that for days. they have been without electricity for a week. and you can imagine that in their homes, if they have homes left, these have been pretty desperate times. so it was a welcome relief. on top of that, you can see people driving, you can see people walking in the park. there's just that human side of you that let's you decompress. but it wasn't a cease-fire. it was just an easing of the fire. both sides continued to shoot at one another during the time that was supposed to be the
cease-fire. >> martin savidge, 10:00 at night, can't see much behind you. a lot of the power, as we know in gaza out. thank you for your reporting there. the obama administration, while still defending israel's right to defend itself, says israel's deadly attack sunday on that u.n. school where civilians from taking shelter was both appalling and disgraceful. at least nine people were killed when explosive shells hit the school in raffa. here on cnn, a state department spokeswoman said israel needs to do better, to try harder not to kill civilians among whom militants are known to seek cover, even hide some of the weapons in the schools and shelters and the mosques there. take a listen to this. >> when you have a situation where innocent civilians are killed in gaza, there's more that israel can do to hold themselves to their own standards. and the united states, of all countries, has experienced this in afghanistan. we're saying they need to hold themselves to their own standards and do more here in gaza.
>> let me bring in two voices, jim sciutto from washington, our chief national security correspondent, and with me in new york, middle east experts, peter beinart, cnn political commentator. jim, let's begin with the words from the state department. the u.s. reminds everyone, israel has the right to defend itself. do we know of any reassessment from washington as far as this operation in gaza goes? >> well, it's a reassessment that's been under way for a number of days now. which gets the particular issue is not with israel striking hamas in gaza, but with the number of civilian casualties, and the reason for the number of civilian casualties. and i've spoken to israeli officials a number of times on this. and they will say we do not target civilians, which they do not on purpose. that said, they are using in many of these strikes nonprecision weapons. artillery, for instance, hit the u.n. school. it's 155 millimeter artillery
that fires from -- in cases sometimes miles away. by definition, it's not a precision weapon. so you fire that, you could be targeting hamas fighters, you know, who are pointing their guns at you. but the explosion is big enough that if civilians are in the area, they're going to get killed and raises questions about the rules of engagement that israel is operating under here. and that is what the u.s. state department, what the u.s. administration clearly has an issue with. and i've got to tell you, as you quoted that statement, carol -- brooke, sorry -- those are very strong words that come from the state department about an ally. appall appalled, disgraceful. it's very strong criticism. >> let me ask you, peter beinart. with those strong words, to remind everyone, israel/u.s., long-time allies. we have talked about the criticism coming from israel when it comes to secretary kerry and his efforts over there. but now to hear the criticism coming from the obama administration, how do you think that's sitting with israel? >> not well. but these are two administrations that have always
had a very testy relationship. >> frothy, testy. >> probably worse than that in private. and i think things have gotten a little bit worse. the interview that benjamin netanyahu did over the weekend, which the israeli government has not repudiatrepudiated, for ame never to second guess him again on hamas, that's also an unusual way for a much smaller ally to talk to a kind of patron like the united states. so that may be part of what's going on. i also wouldn't be surprised if the u.n., which has been getting increasingly desperate about these -- you know, these incidents with their facilities, might have really made a plea to the united states to try to say something a little stronger. again, not -- >> ban ki-moon was pretty strong. >> very, very strong. as jim was saying, not to try to get america to tell israel to stop all together, but at least to say, use precision weapons in these circumstances, be a little more careful. >> let me stay with you. when we look back through the years, the recent history when it comes to the conflict, you have '08 and '09, israel fought
the land war, air strikes in 2012. do you perceive this as different? >> i think what's different is the regional context. on the one hand -- >> egypt. >> egypt, which cannot play the same role. it really ended the conflict in 2012 when it had a government that was on better terms with hamas. the second is, arab countries so hostile to the muslim brotherhood and therefore hamas, giving israel more rope, more leeway than we have seen in the past. and third and maybe most important, the decline in american power. america doesn't have the same leverage over its middle east allies. it doesn't have a great deal of leverage even over israel, at least not leverage it's willing to use. and i think that's what's creating this vacuum, which is allowing this war to go on so long. >> do you agree, jim sciutto? to peter's point, we talked about this before. the -- i don't know if diminishing role, diminishing is the right word. but as far as a player in world politics, especially in the middle east, the role of the u.s. not what it used to be. >> well, it's -- i agree with peter, that the influence is
declined. i think that, you know, when you look back in recent years, you know, the u.s. has had -- it's never really been able to tell even its allies in that part of the world what to do. there have been frustrating encounters between the u.s. and israel for a number of years, and i know peter agrees with me on that. but there is a perception in that part of the world, and you even hear it in europe and i heard it in asia, too, that the u.s. is less interested, less involved. now to be clear and to be fair, you know, that storyline can be overplayed, because, frankly, in each of these conflicts, many of the players say, well, we need the u.s. involved, right? that if anybody is going to solve this problem, we need the u.s. so it is one of those things where you can almost never win. but there's also a bigger picture story going on here, brooke, that at the end of the day, u.s. interest to some degree are declining in that part of the world. we don't have two major occupying forces. certainly not in iraq and soon not in afghanistan. you have a declining dependence on oil from that part of the world that over time in the long
term, you know, we're never not going to be interested in that part of the world. but frankly, our interests are a little less direct today than they were a few years ago. >> okay. jim sciutto and peter beinart, thank you both very much. just ahead, here on cnn, as we get word, two americans received this top-secret serum in their battle with ebola. about to talk live with a cnn correspondent, standing in front of one of the infected areas. we'll talk about this serum, we'll talk about these isolation units, the process of getting them back to the states. also, how much money is it costing to transport these american patients and to keep them isolated? stay with me. you're watching cnn. and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. we've made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks. buy their services directly at angieslist.com no more calling around. no more hassles. start shopping from a list of top-rated providers today.
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welcome back. you're watching cnn. a top-secret experimental serum may be the miracle for two workers with the deadly ebola virus. the drug has made it possible for nancy writebol to prepare for her long journey home. a special jet outfitted with this isolation unit is en route to pick her up. we are told she is likely to arrive atlanta's emory university hospital at some point tomorrow. that other american victim of this deadly virus, dr. kent brantly, he woke up this morning at that same atlanta hospital after a life-saving and well-orchestrated emergency evacuation from liberia. what about the people still in the thick of the outbreak? cnn's david mckenzie is outside a treatment center in sierra leone. and david, tell me just about your journey to get there and tell me what you're seeing.
>> reporter: well, brooke, the journey here was quite extraordinary. today in sierra leone, practically the epicenter of this outbreak, they say that everyone should stay at home, shouldn't go to school, shouldn't go to work. and the streets were completely deserted. they say they wanted people to be at home, to reflect, to pray, and to sort of get ready for the battle ahead against this outbreak. and, you know, i've been to an outbreak before, brooke. and what i've seen here just in the early days of being at the scene here is just how extraordinarily more complex, bigger scale and just difficult it is to deal with this. and it has extremely important and grave consequences for this country, for neighboring countries. and potentially, obviously, for global health. brooke? >> how frightened are people where you are, david? >> reporter: it's a mix. but i think a lot of people fear the unknown. and, you know, just mention ebola to anyone on the street in
the u.s., and it's that fear factor. that is -- it's just, you know, the word itself brings up images of the deadly disease. so when people are in the region where it's actually happening, it's extremely difficult for them it deal with. but imagine this. the doctors here with doctors without borders and the local staff and volunteers are all dealing directly with both suspended and confirmed cases of the ebola virus. not only trying to, you know, quarantine them in areas to keep other people safe, but also trying to give care that might get them to battle and go home and live the rest of their lives. there is a sense, though, that this is out of control. that the steps that they need to be ahead of this outbreak, they're not there. and there's a lot of questions being asked about the level of assistance from various groups around the world, including, it has to be said, the world health organization, who says they're going to raise a great deal of money, but at this stage, is it
too little, too late, where now you have cases in nigeria. this has spread through major countries in west africa, and the fear is, it could spread further. >> david mckenzie in sierra leone, thank you. as we talk about the spread, almost unprecedent in nature, not only ebola and what it's doing and helping others. let me be fair, there is no cure or vaccine for ebola just yet. but some bodies can fight it off, if their basic functions get enough support to keep up the battle to stay strong. that's exactly what emory university hospital hopes to offer to these two american patients, to brantley and writebol. one of the questions everyone is asking in addition to how are they fairing medically speaking, who is footing the bill? who is paying for this pair of american aide workers to get back home to the united states for that much-needed treatment. cnn's alison kosik is here to talk about the money factor.
who is picking up the bill? >> samaritans purse, the charitable organization that kent brantly works for. they're also picking up the tab for the flight for nancy writebol, as well. when i'm talking about this organization, they're picking up not only the flight from liberia to the u.s., but they're also picking up the medical costs for kent brantly, as well. he does have health insurance through his employer. as far as specific figures about this charter flight, we're not getting them. they are tough to find. but we're getting an idea about how much money samaritans purse brings in. we checked out their latest tax return from 2012, and its latest return, the organization took in about $471 million. most of that comes from contributions and grants. here's something, brooke, i found kind of surprising about this, though. you look at his medical care. we actually talked with one of the doctors treating him at emory university. and he said, actually, it doesn't cost anymore to treat him in that isolation you want --
>> than it would the general population? >> right. >> you would think it would be above and beyond, extra staff. >> not so. not according to this doctor. you think about his treatment. he's basically getting fluids right now, getting that experimental serum. no word yet on what that's going to cost. but that's really what his treatment is. you think about this isolation unit, a very sophisticated unit, one of the best in the country. it's been built for 12 years. believe it or not, this is only the second time it's been in use. >> sanjay was saying earlier, standing in front of emory, saying the first time this special top secret serum has been used on humans. it had been used on monkeys. this is never before and it seems at least the male patient, dr. brantley, has been doing pretty well. >> yes. >> alison kosik, thank you so much. and just ahead, the terrorists taking over cities in iraq, have just taken over the country's largest dam. and a former cia officer isn't holding back on what his sources are telling him. >> taking this dam in mosul is
very disturbing, because if they let the water out, they're capable of doing this, it would flood numerous shia cities in the south. >> so would this group -- would this group of mill at all times militants use this as a weapon? we'll talk to a terror expert to weigh in on that. also the power struggle inside hamas as a militant group goes to war with israel. who is calling the shots? that's coming up. will you help us find a new house for you and your brother?
in the mid east and iraq. isis fighting to expand its self proclaimed islamic state and wanted a huge trophy. isis militants claim they control iraq's largest hydroelectric dam. the dam is on the tigriss river. an analyst calls this a quote, horrendous prospect. mosul in the north, a flood from this dam could cause death and destruction and chaos, even as far-reaching about 280 miles south to baghdad. at the same time, the united nations is warning that 200,000 civilians are in danger, because of these isis gains. bob mcfadden is an expert in transnational terrorism. nice to see you again, sir. >> good to see you, brooke. >> talking about this dam,
before we talk about baghdad, huge in itself. the fact they could use this as really a weapon to unleash the floodwater into mosul. that's pretty significant. >> yeah, i agree with the analysts using the adjective horrendous. the potentials there. going by islamic state or isis past modus operandi, earlier this year, attempted to take over the dam in huh deetha but fought back by a combination of iraqi forces. earlier in the year, it seized the fallujah dam but used as a military tactic. of course, intimidation, fear and money. but it flooded farm fields and used the water to prevent striking forces to make land movement. >> so given the modus operandi in the past, even though it's been a back and forth battle in other areas, do you think it's possible they would absolutely use it for their gain? >> absolutely, yes. i mean, isis has been very consistent in its priorities once it takes over areas. first and foremost, weapons
cache, storage, ammunition and depots. then other sources of natural resources and power, whether it's oil fields, or i said before, dams it's tried to take over and has taken over. using it ultimately as a weapon, where it floods and causes an incredible potential damage, the hope, of course, is that it's not likely. but it will be more of an intimidation factor. >> with regard to the potential floods, roger, let put the map back up, just so people can see again. you see mosul in the north but baghdad. and we focus for so long on whether or not isis concedes baghdad. they have yet to do so. but the fact that this dam could reach baghdad, what would that look like? how much water are we talking that in itself? >> reading from some of the reports and some of the experts of the united nations, for example, the term was it could potentially, if extremely damaged or open, release a 65-foot wave wall of water.
causing tremendous damage and loss of life in the north, if -- if that were to happen. but again, the only thing we can go by is its modus operandi, what it's done up to this point. can it be ruled out? i wouldn't say so. but last reports, though, on the way over here, brooke, forces are still fighting and have control. although isis does claim it has control of the dam. >> that's the latest i saw as well and bob baer who we have on all of the time, former cia operative, saying isis is moving toward baghdad. that's significant, one. but talking about the northern part of the country, and how many of these christians, tens of thousands of christians, are fleeing as they're -- they have overtaken much of the northern part of iraq. do you think that was purposeful in getting the christians out, or do you think that they were simply in the way of these militants? >> little doubt that that suits its purpose. intimidation of the ethnic and
religious minorities. the shia up in those places. the christians, as you mentioned, big development. the three small towns taken by isis up near the turkish border. there's a sect that's lived there for many centuries, upwards of 40,000 to over 100,000 have fled. so the refugee problem is also a big, big issue in displaced persons, as well. not only that, though. it separated two of the kurdish areas with those three towns taken. so kurds to the west, kurds to the east will have more difficulty, you know, combining. >> bob mcfadden, thank you so much. >> my pleasure. >> appreciate it. and cnn sat down exclusively with the political leader of hamas. what does he say about the critics who say hamas uses civilians as human shields, and what will it take for hamas to stop firing rockets at israel? you will hear his response in an exclusive interview coming up. plus, wolf blitzer spent
insists he wants to end the fighting for good. but in this interview with nic roberts robertson, he says there are conditions that must be met. >>translator: we are ready for a cease-fire. we don't want war. we want the war to end today. we did not attack anyone. it was netanyahu who transferred the crisis that took place in the west bank on june 12th to gaza. he is responsible for this. we are ready to stop this war, and we want a cease-fire. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, of course, has a much different perspective. he says the israeli military operation, quote, will end only when quiet and security is restored to the citizens of israel for a lengthy period, end quote. we continue to hear messages from both israeli and hamas leaders, but we want to focus on just the day-to-day life for the people living through this conflict on both sides. wolf blitzer just returned this
morning, all the way from jerusalem after spending the last month covering that conflict. so wolf blitzer, first just welcome home. >> thank you. >> and second of all, when i think of you and your time over there, and all the interviews, i have the visual of you climbing in that tunnel. tell me what that was like. what didn't we see on camera? >> you know, it was pretty amazing when you think about it, because we heard about these tunnels. i didn't know much about them. all of a sudden they became a big issue. so we got permission. the israeli military took us down there to see this tunnel and you could see some video of me going down. first of all, you have to go down about 45 feet to where the opening of the tunnel was. and just sort of go down there and crawl into this little hole. and then you -- you're inside, and it's about three kilometers long, two miles or so, roughly half under gaza. roughly half under israel. the part that comes up on the israeli side is right here a kibbutz on the border with gaza.
and, you know, all these -- people were living there, but very few are there right now. they're obviously pretty scared. all the young people. there's a few old-timers still sort of there, but it's -- if you're claustrophobic, you don't want to go into that tunnel and walk around there. >> i don't know if i could have done that. i know kids -- >> yeah. go ahead. >> kids helped dig the tunnel, right? that's how in some cases, because they're just so -- that small. >> and i'm not really a tall guy. but the height is maybe, 5'6", 5'7" and if you're taller than that, you've got to crouch down. it was pretty sophisticated, the concrete impressive. the tracks on the bottom where you could move sand back and forth or supplies, whatever you wanted to do. and electrical lines. so it was an engineering -- it was an impressive piece of engineering. and i was, you know, happy to go down there and check it out. the israelis now, by the way, say they have destroyed almost all if not all of those tunnels going from gaza into israel. but they acknowledge, you know,
they don't know what they don't know. there might be some others, but they think they have gone pretty much along the whole border between israel and gaza and figured out where the tunnels are, and pretty much destroyed them. and that has enabled the israeli military, the ground force, if not all -- pretty much start the withdrawal from gaza, they could go back in if they want. but on the ground, they're out. they're going to continue the air strikes, the naval strikes, shelling from across the border if they think that's necessary. but as far as ground troops, with the destruction of those tunnels, that was a priority number one as far as the israeli military was concerned. i think that's pretty much over with. >> wolf, i have more questions for you. but it just so happens, i have paula hancock next to me and we were going to talk about something entirely different. you too have been in those tunnels a couple years ago? >> that's right. it was actually very different tunnels to the one that wolf actually went inside. these were tunnels in between gaza and egypt, the smuggling tunnels, where they brought in food, gas, livestock and also,
of course, those rockets. and the ammunitions. it was very interesting to see the tunnels that wolf went down, because the ones i went down were very basic. they were -- they didn't have electricity. they didn't have any sort of air ventilation. they were literally just holes burrowed underground. we didn't see the concrete reinforcement that you see in these military tunnels which wolf was inside. and, of course, when i went down, it was about four years ago, so it shows that hamas has a lot of experience in these tunnels and they have learned from these smuggling tunnels and the one -- seeing the one that wolf went down, exactly what they have learned and how much better they have become at it. >> what about -- thank you. wolf, what about the fact that you -- you were over there for just about a month. so i have to imagine, i mean, little over a month ago, that was the three israeli teenagers abducted and killed and the palestinian teenager in the revenge killing, the beginning of the rockets and the bloodshed. what did you notice over the
course of those weeks coughing this conflict? >> well, i was practically pretty surprised. i thought it was going to last a few days. i've been covering this story for a long time. i didn't think it was going to go on. still going on right now. and if somebody would have said to me then it's going to be a month into this, and it's become a real war, and so many people are going to be killed, so many casualties, so many people in gaza. and that 6 3 or 64 israeli soldiers have been killed and three civilians. that's been pretty surprising to me. i thought it was going to be resolved fairly quickly, just as in 2008, 2012. but obviously, that has not turned out to be the case. what was very note worthy to me, as it's been going on within israel, the mood seems to becoming more supportive of prime minister netanyahu's position, because every day these rockets and missiles come in. people -- interrupts peoples lives, even though the iron dome is effective in destroying these
rockets and missiles over populated areas, you hear the sirens go off, run into those shelters. and one image i remember, i was on one of the outside of tel avi avi aviv, jafa, and i didn't see people in the water, and this is peak beach season in that part of the world along the mediterranean, beaches are beautiful. and a lot of parents said to me they didn't want their kids going in the water, because they would have 60 seconds once the sirens go off to get out of the water and run to a shelter, if you will, some sort of bunker, and they thought it would be bad to be in the water swimming or surfing, whatever they were doing. so it was pretty -- that was just one little aspect of daily life in the tel aviv area that i noticed that -- and obviously, what's going on in gaza is horrible. by any definition. you see, you know, all the people who have died and been injured, the homes destroyed. the camps. it's a horrible situation all around. what was surprising to me, how long it has gone on.
and unfortunately, how much longer it could go on. >> so you got on the plane thinking a couple days, and lo and behold, you were there for a month. phenomenal reporting from you. and your entire crew, wolf blitzer. welcome home. and we'll be watching much more from you coming up on "the situation room" 5:00 eastern here on cnn. and paula hancocks, thank you to you as well. coming up next, actor john boit is lived with this power couple. p penelope cruz may be helping to incite anti-semitism over the world. hear what they did, coming up. your 16-year-old daughter
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here's one word for you. ignora ignorant. that is the word that actor john voit has labeled actress penelope cruz and her husband. they signed an open letter condemning israel for its military action in gaza. in this blistering op-ed, voit calls it a poison letter, accusing the pair of, quote, fanning the fire of anti-semitism. he writes this. quote, my name is john voigt and i am heart sick that penelope cruz could insight anti-semitism all over the world and are oblivious to the damage they have caused. joining me now, michelle turner.
back up a little. >> exactly. >> take me back. >> exactly. >> why -- why is he so mad? >> everyone is probably saying why is john voigt so incensed. usually we see hollywood galvanizeded on topics. john voigt never one to shy away from venturing into political issues. and he's doing it once again with this open letter, or actually more like an opinion piece that was aimed at javier and penelope cruz. john voigt says they co-signed this letter last week, attacking the israeli treatment of the palestinians. they were labelling what the israeli militant is doing as genocide. they were immediately attacked for their words, which prompted both of them then to issue statements, saying that they were just trying to make pleas for peace. here's what was written in the second letter. he said, quote, i am now being labeled by some as anti semitic, as is my wife, which is the antithesis of who we are as
human beings. we detest anti-semitism as much as we detest the horrible and painful consequences of war. penelope cruz said she was, quote, not an expert on the situation and said that her only wish and intention in signing that group letter is the hope that there will be peace in both israel and gaza. these apologies, of course, not enough for john voigt. he wrote this opinion column published on sunday that they -- this is what he said, they should, quote, hang your heads in shame and ask forgiveness from the suffering people in israel. he said both of them, like you mentioned, were obviously -- these are his words, obviously ignorant. and he warned that the letter they signed could incite anti-semitism over the world. he also went on to say he was more than angry, like you said. he talked about the fact that they had the opportunity to use their celebrity for good. but instead he says they used it to defame israel, which, of course, made him just incensed. >> it is so interesting watching a lot of times hollywood all
coming together on something, whatever that -- whatever that cause celeb may be at the time. but seeing the deletion of tweets, you know, in this particular case. it's been interesting to watch. >> yeah, you know, it is interesting. because over -- you know, in the coverage of this, we have seen certain celebrities come out. rihanna, kim kardashian, dwight howard, giving sympathy or using things on twitter like free palestine or pray for palestine. and then when they're criticized, they take them back and just say, we just want peace all over. but this could be a generational thing, as well, and could actually mirror what's going on in society, brooke. because we're seeing, kind of conservatives and some republicans say the obama administration is isn't as strongly behind israel as we would like them to be. and now we're seeing some oh older hollywood times like john voigt saying this new generation isn't as behind israel as they should be. >> i heard that from a number of people. to brian stelter's point earlier, may be a social media thing, as well. michelle turner, thank you very much. >> absolutely. coming up next, i want you to take a look at something.
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we, of course, have been watching this latest escalation of violence for 2 days now. just today israel is dealing with two attacks in jerusalem. police say they foiled an attack when they shot and killed the driver of an earth mover who had overturned a passenger bus. also, israeli police tell cnn a man on a motorcycle opened fire at the entrance of a major tunnel connecting the city to the dead sea area. meantime, in gaza, the israeli military says it did bomb a refugee camp in gaza city and just since this fighting broke out back on july 7th, more than 1800 palestinians have been killed in gaza, 67 israelis have
been killed, all but three of them soldiers. and i really wanted to talk to my next guest. she has a unique perspective. claire hijaj, a jewish mother and palestinian father and talks about her parents' brave attempt to rewrite tribal hatred. the book is called issue male's hatred. how did your parents meet? >> they met in the 1960s. an era where i think a lot of things seemed possible that maybe don't feel possible today. they fell in love at university. they saw themselves as being enemy tribes. at that point, they were just two young people trying to make their way. unfortunately, life did catch up with them in that respect. >> as life has caught up. we have seen the violence through the years between you know, these two warring sides. did you ever feel compelled to
choose a side? >> absolutely. i mean, this conflict is like solomon's baby in a way. you're asked to pick half. and you can't be both. it just doesn't seem to be possible. there are two ways of dealing with that. either you pick one and lots of people do pick one. and that's a far more comfortable place to be because you know who your hero anvil lynn is. i don't live in a world of villains and heroes. during this conflict particularly, that's been a hard position to keep hold of. it seems to me here there are heros and villains on both sides. i can't choose between them idea logically. i only judge on what is happening, what i see. >> hmm. >> so with the unique vision, the unique perspective that you have watching this violence back and forth for the last four weeks, given the lineage of your father and your mother, what are you thinking? >> i think i feel what any -- i
mean i'm a jew according to the jewish religion. i'm a muslim according to the muslim faith, and a palestinian according to my family. and a british according to my other family. to me i'm a mother. i look at this and see it as a mother should see it, i think. sickened and helpless to see death on this scale and to see two communities that i love in different ways and have to love and can't help loving tearing themselves apart, hurting themselves and each other so badly and getting nothing that they want out of of it. to me, that's the fundamental point, nothing that they want to get, either the palestinians or the jews, not dignity, not security, not freedom, not statehood, not freedom from fear, they're not going to get it this way. >> claire hajij, "arab male's oranges." thank you. coming up next, we have to get to breaking news. we're just learning a patient in
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recently reportedly came back from a trip to west africa. that patient right now is in isolation. this, of course, as we've been watching the ebowl lal outbreak in this part of the world and two patients now, one at emory, one en route to emory to be treated in atlanta. i'm book baldwin. live on cnn, let's go live to jerusalem. "the lead with jake tapper" "the lead with jake tapper" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com we are live from jerusalem as violence terrorizes this holy city and word of another cease-fire brings new hope. i'm jack tapper. this is "the lead." the world lead, a city bus on its side and bullets flying in the streets, israel blaming terrorists for a deadly day in jerusalem as the war on the gaza border spills over. another cease-fire, that's short on the whole ceasing to fire thing. palestinians accusing israel of breaking their own truce was an attack that killed another